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(Parts of this are taken from a section of the freely downloadable PYRTE boiler construction in the left column under PYRTE, and it is recommended you take a look to give you the fuller picture of how you go about silver soldering, although much of it can be disregarded if you are not following the PYRTE build)
How to Silver Solder copper pipe (steel and brass)
A small section on how to silver solder stainless steel is added at the bottom.
Silver solder, when applied to a really hot piece of unclean (metal) usually copper, steel or brass, will just form a blob and will not penetrate where it’s needed, and when cold it is relatively easily removed.
It needs a certain amount of heat for it to run, and it’s the running that is needed with the silver solder melting temperature of around 670 F to 700 F being in the metal itself - not the solder. (The high temperature silver solders need around a further 200 F beyond this, but this high temperature can be very awkward to achieve and maintain with a normal propane torch. The metal must be clean, shiny and scrubbed up, and it must also have flux applied where you want the solder to attach itself. What you are doing basically, with the shining and the flux, is removing any surface oxides from the metal.
The silver solder works by filling a gap, not as you would first imagine by encasing the two parts to be joined, and it is for this reason that the two mating parts should be a close fit.
There is a tolerance of between three and seven thousandths of an inch to play with. Any less than three thou (0.08mm) and the solder will not penetrate, and any more than seven thou (0.018mm) and the solder will just run through the joint and not form a seal.
I imagine you've just got into gurning now that you’ve read that, especially if it your first venture into silver soldering, but take heart, what follows is very easy to do…
To give you an idea of the melting temperature of silver solder and how to silver solder perhaps a little example will help.
Take a short piece of copper piping, any diameter will do, but 13mm will show you the best results, and lay it flat on a small piece of a copper plate off-cut.
What you need to do is shine both the top side of the plate and the bottom of the tube (the parts making contact) with wire wool, emery cloth of something similar and smear (brush) your flux for silver solder along the contact point.
With the tube resting on the plate, simply apply heat with a blow-lamp. Once you see the water evaporate off the proposed joint the flux is left as a white powder. Keep on heating the joint until you see the powder turn into a clear liquid (the copper or brass should be just about glowing red by then) and then apply a small amount of silver solder to the joint on one side of the pipe.
Move the flame to the other side of the pipe, again aiming your flame at the joint, and you will see the silver solder penetrating beneath the pipe towards the heat.
That's it... Job done... Kill your flame and let it cool naturally.
Owing to the small mass of metal involved, you should have this done inside two minutes, but be aware that as you work with larger materials, you may need more heat. Also, if you are using steel, it may not go red before the solder and flux run into place.
We continue from the description of the build of PYRTE......
Using your mark round the outside of your barrel at ⅛ inch or 3mm in from the front end, drill holes on this line at approximately ninety degree intervals around the outside – the positions are not critical, so long as they are on the marked line, but avoid using the points marking the top and bottom centre lines, as these will be needed later - with a clearance size drill for four small bolts.
(I used steel 4BA
nuts and bolts initially to get it
all lined up, but brass 4BA studding – I had no brass 4BA
bolts at the time -
with steel nuts for the actual soldering, and drilled it with a 3.5mm
drill, which suits the flowing ability of the solder).
Brass has been used simply because when the time comes to install the smoke-box, if a drill is used and catches one of these brass bolts or studding, it should be OK, but if steel ones are used, the drill may wander if it catches one, or even break and cause endless problems.
These nuts will be removed with a file in due course, as they would obstruct the smoke-box installation later on, but for now they can be left on.
The brass bolts or studding shafts themselves will come to no harm, as they are not in contact with any water in any way; they are under no pressure and are hidden by the smoke-box when complete, so they present no problem here.
Once the holes are de-burred inside the barrel it is time to insert the ring into the end of the barrel, keeping the front edge level with the front of the barrel.
The simplest way to do this is to insert the pressure ring almost far enough inside the barrel and then sit the barrel on its front end on a flat surface and push the barrel down to the flat surface.
The pressure ring now needs marking with the same drill as was used on the barrel in one place only, through one of the holes in the barrel, and make a point of starting your first hole around half an inch (13mm) away from the cut ends of the pressure ring.
Once this is done, the ring is taken out of the barrel and drilled squarely through towards the centre of the circle, and with the burrs cleaned off the pressure ring, it can be re-inserted in the barrel and a 4BA bolt can be inserted and the nut tightened up just so that it nips the two mating surfaces together.
By making sure the pressure ring is sitting against the inside of the barrel and lined up with the front of the boiler once again, a second hole can be marked and drilled through the pressure ring.
Continue with each hole, cleaning off the burrs to make sure the ring is tight to the inside of the barrel before the next one is marked and drilled, either clockwise or counter-clockwise, making sure they are done and bolted tight, one at a time.
You may now find the ends of the pressure rings do not meet properly, but this is not a problem, as a small, brightly cleaned sliver of fluxed copper can be inserted in the gap and soldered at the same time as the main pressure/anchor ring is soldered, once the 13 gauge front plate is in place.
Remove the pressure/anchor ring from the cylinder and lightly chamfer the inner corner a little with a fine file along the inside edge where it touches the plate, and the front edge where it touches the inside of the barrel. This is to give a lead for the silver solder to run in.
The back (pressure plate side) of the pressure ring would benefit from rubbing on a flat sheet of emery cloth to flatten it out somewhat, as once the ring is bent in a circle, the edge nearest the plate will be mal-formed owing to compression at the inside and stretching at the outside diameter of the ring.
Clean it up with glass paper/emery cloth to a good brightness on the outer contacting surface where it butts up against the inside of the barrel. It also needs to be bright where the 13-gauge front plate butts up against it, along with the front outer ¼ inch (6mm) of that plate too.
The same cleaning/brightening of the inside of the tube needs to be done, allowing ½ inch (13mm) or more for the pressure ring and the plate, that way soldering the outside of the ring and the outside of the plate to the inside of the barrel, along with a small fillet of solder between the mating surfaces of the plate and rear of the ring.
In other words, all mating surfaces need to be clean and shiny.
Rinse off any dust particles with clean cold water and then gently heat the proposed joint to evaporate any moisture. (By not doing this rinsing and then evaporating the water off before applying the flux, many failures from poor running of the solder have occurred in the past, as silver soldering is best done in one go, rather than having to go back to reheat the joint and releasing other soldered joints through stress because of heat distortion and gravity).
Once it is cool comes the application of the flux, which comes in a white powder form. A small quantity is mixed with a few drops of clean water and stirred. The consistency should be like dairy cream and can be applied with a child’s paintbrush where it is needed on the bright metal, once the parts are separated, and then assemble them together.
It can be noted here that to do any form of soldering, the metal must be clean and bright, especially for silver solder, but it can also be noted that the grease provided by fingers touching the bright work, providing they are not oily, will be removed by the flux. Anything else will need to be removed by scrubbing, filing or wire wool.
Do not forget to coat the brass screw studding or bolts you are using to hold the pressure ring in place with flux. Any nuts do not need this treatment!
When heat is applied to the fluxed metal, the water boils off and the flux forms a white residue, which you may think needs removing. Do not remove it, as when the metal gets hot enough, the residue turns to a clear liquid and a little after that, with the heat still in use, then is the time to begin applying your solder.
Too much heating can cause the
silver solder to run
through the joint, possibly because of expansion, so it is imperative
that the joint is close together before heating commences, that way
allowing the silver solder to just fill the gap and no more.
having a soldering hearth
or something of that nature, I found that a few Thermolite breeze
blocks – the ones produced for insulation purposed for house
building from the builders yard (Celcon is another brand name for the
same product, and there are perhaps others – but not the ones
containing polystyrene) – serve the purpose admirably and can
cut to shape with an old hand saw easily.
The weight of the barrel with the
anchor ring bolted
(finger tight) in place, sat on top of the front 13-gauge plate,
supported on top of the end of the piston (shaved block) held the front
plate in place and allowed ample space in the joints to be available
for the silver solder to be applied easily. Plus you have the added
benefit of the insulation from the block, that way needing less heat to
do the job.
If you specify from your supplier that you want to silver solder stainless steel, then they should accomodate you easily.
Soaking in a bath of warm water for half an hour or so will remove the acid into the water and a final rinse in fresh water does the trick.
Just to help you out, the suppliers we use for many of our bits and pieces are Screwfix Direct along with Macc Models for our soldering equipment and many other things.
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